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Title: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 27, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
sometimes they should just leave things alone...is that the new royal guard I guess?
Title: Re: new images for Ep.8
Post by: Darth Woo on July 27, 2017, 07:44:08 PM
Honestly don't care for the design.  I'm actually considering selling off all my First Order and only collect OTC Imperials.
Title: Re: new images for Ep.8
Post by: bob on July 27, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
 agreed on that one! even the stormtroopers from TFA dont really do anything for me. the death troopers are great though. Rogue One blew TFA away.

 these new royal guards kinda suck. of course they have to alter things. then crazy people wont buy as much if they dont. always has to be something new and diff. not even cause of the toys but thats just how it goes.
Title: Re: new images for Ep.8
Post by: jjreason on July 27, 2017, 08:47:31 PM
They look cool to me. There has to be some sort of progression shown after 30 years, this is easy to see the inspiration but new enough to attract the eyes of collectors. Not bad. I will be happy to buy one on clearance for $7 or less.  :D

And I will add - before the lightning strikes - some militant folks would consider this a spoiler - I'm going to start a new thread for EpVIII photo/story discussion & hope that we can all work together to keep that stuff partitioned away from the ones who want to see nothing, hear nothing & know nothing.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: jjreason on July 27, 2017, 08:54:18 PM
And, never being too shy to "double post" - here's my contribution. These little guys are called "Porgs" & I have no idea what role they will play. My plan is to pretty much stay out of this topic, but I didn't want to act like Mr. Bossypants & not provide anything to discuss.  :rollfloorlaffsmiley:

(https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_fill,h_270,w_480/t_mp_quality_gif/o3okvyopq9odrlmjtibt/people-are-going-to-want-a-porg-as-a-pet-lucasfilm-explains-the-cutest-star-wars-creatu-1471310.jpg)
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: napseeker on July 27, 2017, 09:57:51 PM
sometimes they should just leave things alone...is that the new royal guard I guess?

I believe they are called the Praetorian Guard, so basically yup. I really hope Hasbro isn't going to produce too many of these figures since I suspect they're going to pegwarm (just keep re-releasing the 3.75" SA Royal Guard, at least until I can buy a few for myself lol)

So far I've not seen a single character beyond old Luke, Rey, and Kylo, that I'd want to buy as a toy. The ship and vehicle designs really aren't all that appealing and boy the FO baddies are just disappointments so far - well, at least Capt Phasma looked amazing, until you watch her fold like a newspaper the moment she's handed an empty threat by an Imperial janitor. 

Hasbro should just release more Rogue1 SA 3.75" figures (Merrick, Raddus, blue squadron, etc) if they'd like to actually turn a profit.



Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: jjreason on July 27, 2017, 10:26:17 PM
Kylo's TIE whatever is about as exciting as a tupperware party. :(
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: napseeker on July 27, 2017, 10:28:47 PM
At least we finally get to see Snoke in the flesh. He literally looks like an advertisement not to smoke. Here's my interpretation of him:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4308/36045196232_43b9cdeb2e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WVc43y)Try vaping instead (https://flic.kr/p/WVc43y)   (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84061259@N00/)
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: cash_fan on July 27, 2017, 11:10:26 PM
Does anybody watch the Star Wars Show on Youtube??  They had the porgs on there this week. 
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 28, 2017, 05:57:06 AM
thanks for the move jj...I didn't even think about it : )

and LOL to napseeker re:snoke.

As for the movie, I guess it will be an updated ESB...I wonder which one of them will get the carbonite treatment? : )
Title: Re: new images for Ep.8
Post by: Mongo on July 28, 2017, 02:30:30 PM
They look cool to me. There has to be some sort of progression shown after 30 years.

But yet Jedi and sith havent changed in 1000s of years. I cant stand the fact that they have to change things every time.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: jjreason on July 28, 2017, 04:35:48 PM
That's like comparing Buddhist monks (little change over 100s of years) to active service military & police personnel (tons of change over 100s of years).
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: Eradicator on July 28, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
Those guards will probably be in the movie for all of two seconds. The guards look ok. Not as slick as the original Royal Guard for sure.

I love the smoking ad. That is funny.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: napseeker on July 28, 2017, 06:24:59 PM
I should've labelled that anti-smoking ad with the brand name "Snoke's Smokes" (oh the ideas that come to you only after you've shut off Photoshop and gone to bed).

In other news, Major Derlin is BACK!  Very neat to see Cliff Clavin reprise his role again after so many years:

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/LEGO_Ratzenberger_Reprises_Roll_175426.asp
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: Mongo on July 29, 2017, 02:34:30 PM
That's like comparing Buddhist monks (little change over 100s of years) to active service military & police personnel (tons of change over 100s of years).

I wouldn't call them active military or police personnel. They are more like Queens royal palace guards in Britain, which haven't changed in 100s of years.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: jjreason on July 29, 2017, 03:40:57 PM
Fair point. I'm guessing these must be Snoke's guards, and there will be a 400 page novel as well as 12 comics and an entry in the visual guide as to the "meaning" of the armor.  :crazy:
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 09:08:15 AM
toys!
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 09:08:45 AM
toys
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 09:09:07 AM
toys
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 09:09:29 AM
toys
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 09:09:50 AM
toys
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 09:10:16 AM
toys
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 09:13:46 AM
toys
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: brianakarobin on July 30, 2017, 02:14:52 PM
I agree with JJ. I would actually be disappointed if I went to Episode VII or VIII and saw Stormtrooper armour or Royal Guard (or whatever they want to call them now) armour and it was exactly the same 30+ years later. 30 years ago would take us back to the 80s. A small list of things that look very different since the 80s:

Big pouffy hairdos for women
Big pouffy hairdos for men (at least hard rock bands : ) )
Goalie equipment in hockey (I'd love to see equipment sizes reduced to what they were in the 80s!)
Team uniforms in all major professional sports
Body armour (or lack thereof) in standard infantry equipment and police uniforms
Mike Tyson could actually fight
Short shorts were in
Acid wash jeans!!

I could go on forever.  However, to make this a bit more relevant, how about we look at a few changes from Episodes 1-3 to episodes 4-6 (Episode 1 was 32 ABY, so matches quite well in terms of the time differential):

Clone trooper armour versus storm trooper armour
Palpatine's robes
and the clincher:
The Senate Guards

Let's face it, 30 years is a long time, and things are going to change. We are all completely biased comparing the quality of the movies, the costumes, armour, vehicles, etc. from Episodes 4-6 to now, as we have so much nostalgia attached to our memories of the OT. No matter how cool these new movies are, they will almost certainly not stack up for us. But if they do for the next generation, then they have done what they intended.


Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: ambasah on July 30, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
I am all for change....if it looks good.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: jjreason on July 30, 2017, 05:39:31 PM
I like the generic female pilot & that's about it from those initial figures.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: napseeker on July 30, 2017, 07:27:26 PM
There are clearer pics of the wave1 5POA figures AND Kylo's new Tie fighter here:

https://www.facebook.com/TheJournalOfTheWhills/posts/760127980810613?__fns&hash=Ac2r8Kiq4K7AmLN3

Kylo's Tie seems to be about the same size as Hasbro's Darth Maul Sith Infiltrator toy... soooooo, get ready to SQUEEZE your Kylo Ren figure really really tightly into that cockpit.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: Darth Cujo on July 30, 2017, 11:14:57 PM
There definitely needs to be change from film to film. Especially when there is a 30 year gap. But that royal guard design just looks lame.

One thing I thought Lucas did pretty well with the prequels (even though that was extrapolating back in time, while now it is forward) was make the prequel designs new enough while still feeling like it was a natural progression or evolution. The royal guard for episode 8 looks like they tried too hard or something.

As for the figures I only have a desire to get maybe Rey and Luke. But I may hold out for vintage collection versions. I think I'll pretty much be sitting this one out.

Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: brianakarobin on August 01, 2017, 05:59:45 PM
There definitely needs to be change from film to film. Especially when there is a 30 year gap. But that royal guard design just looks lame.

One thing I thought Lucas did pretty well with the prequels (even though that was extrapolating back in time, while now it is forward) was make the prequel designs new enough while still feeling like it was a natural progression or evolution. The royal guard for episode 8 looks like they tried too hard or something.

As for the figures I only have a desire to get maybe Rey and Luke. But I may hold out for vintage collection versions. I think I'll pretty much be sitting this one out.
Yeah, I agree that some progressions, like this Royal Guard design, are definitely in the wrong direction. Kind of like that streaking hockey puck gimmick they tried on Fox back in the 90s :speechless-smiley-004:
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: napseeker on September 07, 2017, 07:33:49 PM
And now we officially know who "The Last Jedi" refers to, and it's uhm, obvious...

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/09/07/star-wars-rian-johnson-clarifies-jedi/
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: jjreason on September 07, 2017, 08:34:49 PM
Good of them to clarify. It was obvious. I get frustrated with the overthinking & crazy theories, now I can poo poo them with facts to back me up.  :rollfloorlaffsmiley:
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: sinkie on September 07, 2017, 09:21:51 PM
Although...he does say something about "from a certain point of view" so he either realized he'd just given something away or there could be more to it. However, I'm personally not all that worried and never really was about who the title referred to. I'm more intrigued about why there would be a last regardless of who it comes down to.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: sinkie on September 09, 2017, 09:44:25 AM
I started to watch TFA again last night and found it funny that in the opening scroll Luke is referred to as "the last Jedi" and about forty minutes in Snoke refers to him in exactly the same way.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: cash_fan on September 10, 2017, 11:21:35 PM
I started to watch TFA again last night and found it funny that in the opening scroll Luke is referred to as "the last Jedi" and about forty minutes in Snoke refers to him in exactly the same way.

Yeah, I don't know what all the fervor was when the The Last Jedi title was announced.  We know it's Luke. 
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: napseeker on September 12, 2017, 01:32:19 PM
...and JJAbrams officially hired to co-write and direct episode 9 ("Return of the Lens Flare").

The post-RotJ period is now officially dead to me.  RIP.



Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: 66jedikiller66 on October 20, 2017, 11:05:26 PM
I was reading in another thread that  people are thinking DJ might be related to FETT.
even if that is true it doesn't mean that he is a villain.
I think that people are going to be surprised when they find out who the new antagonist is in the movie.
It is actually...Rose.
Title: Re: EPVIII - Pre-Release Discussion, early photos, etc. BEWARE POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Post by: jjreason on October 20, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
I'm hearing DJ might be Ezra Bridger from Rebels. No kidding.