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The Last Jedi (2017-???) / Re: Who was worse - Kylo or DJ
« on: January 13, 2018, 07:36:35 PM »
That was the big development in the Bloodlines novel... (a spoiler for sure, so perhaps a spoiler warning should've been given regarding this reveal).

And of course, the former Senate loathed Leia enough to want her dead, so she really didn't have a lot of allies that might've intervened other than Lando or ...Fenn Shysa (okay, that's a stretch that one).


The Last Jedi (2017-???) / Re: Who was worse - Kylo or DJ
« on: January 13, 2018, 12:50:47 AM »
Still having some trouble getting my head around the fact that no one replied. I wonder if they'll address that or if that's truly what happened.

Well it could simply be a galactic equivalent of the famous "Bystander effect":

The bystander effect, or bystander apathy, is a social psychological phenomenon in which individuals are less likely to offer help to a victim when other people are present. The greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that any one of them will help. Several factors contribute to the bystander effect, including ambiguity, cohesiveness and diffusion of responsibility.

The whole galaxy (or at least those on the outer rim) are bearing witness to what is about to be a violent massacre of a handful of freedom fighters... that's a lot of bystanders and a lot of diffusion of responsibility i.e. "let someone else do it, why risk our necks for a hopeless cause?"

The Last Jedi (2017-???) / Re: Who was worse - Kylo or DJ
« on: January 12, 2018, 02:29:32 AM »
No, no... we don't want Lando in DJ's role (let's not forget that he betrays the resistance and causes the deaths of 90% of the evacuees).  We've already had enough of our OT heroes get ruined by the ST.

While I was fine with Luke in TLJ, I understand why a lot of fans hate that old Luke is bitter, cynical and dejected... that ruined Luke for those fans. Let's keep Lando and as many other classic characters from that fate.

Also given Billy Dee's health issues, he never would've been able to do the role; far better is to just have him be the master slicer that Finn was trying to contact. A short cameo showing a happy Lando with a lady on each arm, that would've been good enough I think. That's what I think a lot of fans were hoping for (that and a more heroic Holdo-style death for Ackbar)

Lando could've also had a second cameo then at the climax, responding to Leia's plea by indicating he was trying to rally any allies he could but help would never be able to arrive in time (that might've lessened the desperation of the Resistance's situation though...)

Scout Report / Re: amazon deals
« on: December 30, 2017, 02:20:51 AM »
All I know is the more I cancel my orders , the more the price goes down.  Maybe I have found a loop hole in amazon's programming .

I am going to buy a Porsche from Amazon this way. Just keep cancelling until I can get it for $10.

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 30, 2017, 02:19:45 AM »
(insert eps9 here)

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 27, 2017, 01:40:13 PM »
I think 100% we will see that Kylo Ren and Rey are brother and sister.

Let's not forget, the Porgs will overrun the Imperia--- I mean, the First Order, troops and save the day. Then... there will be a big dance party at the end.

Wampa Cave / Re: Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year
« on: December 24, 2017, 05:14:38 PM »
I hope everyone has a very happy holiday and that Santa brings them what they wished for most. 

May the teets of the Ach-to milk creature always provide you with much blue-green milk to drink from!

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 22, 2017, 01:43:50 AM »
Here's an interesting extract from a talkback... another way in which reaction to the film was gauged. It talks about the critical response, which on RT was high, and then the fan reaction... one talkbacker noted:

Last Jedi is like the 2016 Presidential election. Trump won the electoral college but not the popular vote. Critics gave the movie 93% but Critics arent devoted Star Wars fans they are movie reviewers their criteria for what a good Star wars film isnt the same as a Star Wars fan. Same goes for general Audiences--who love Last Jedi. I separate serious fan from general audience or casual fan. A serious fan buys the books, the toys, the visual guides..are steeped in SW lore. Sort of like a sports team fan who has season tickets, jerseys, trading cards, posters. And a fan that catches an occasional game. There is a distinction.

The reply from another talkbacker:
I think it's a good distinction too, that's why the surveymonkey exitpoll makes for such interesting reading. 4441 randomly selected audience members were screened over the first 4 days of screenings, but they made your distinction asking people whether they considered themselves regular fans / or hardcore fans, and the polled data remained at 89% liked / loved it between both groups.

Interestingly the split of liked/ loved it in the folks who described themselves as regular fans was 66% and 34%, and the split between the folks who described themselves as hardcore fans was actually much higher: 37% liked it and 66% loved it.

Overall the exit poll tallies with others like comscore/ postTrak etc, but the distinction is what made this one interesting. Anyhoo, all food for thought.

I would trust an exit poll more than I would ever trust the audience score on RT, although maybe after second or third viewings, those fans changed their minds again?  That would be called "pulling a JJReason"  :)

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 22, 2017, 12:03:47 AM »
It's hard to believe one guy in a position like that (not a significantly powerful one, by my assessment), can rally enough help from other morons to influence things. Goes to show how fragile some things on the internet - ie veracity of information - still are. Make sure you read as many sides of a story as you can these days!  :speechless-smiley-004:

Please note that according to this article, this one guy was using bots, not other humans, to help push the audience score lower... bots of course, being the equivalent to a 21st century army that can be used to bias polls, spread fake news, tie up website resources, etc.  It's like your own personal clone army :)

Oh, I personally liked most of the humor in the movie (the early scene with Poe trying to stall Hux was dumb though, as was Finn's leaking bacta suit).  Really, when Chewie executes a hard turn of the Falcon and that Porg smashes up against the cockpit window?  That will continue to get me whenever I see that moment, even 10 years from now... I have not laughed that hard in a SW flick in a long, long time.

Online Shopping - Who's Got the Hot Items??? / Re: Updates
« on: December 21, 2017, 02:32:19 PM »
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that the Amazon price drops happen because a certain item isn't selling well enough according to some internal metric.  So their system begins discounting it daily until the lowered price attracts enough buyers to reduce the inventory level of that item.

That theoretically should mean that if SW collectors can restrain themselves long enough, then the item would drop to some fantastically cheap price before it gets bought up... although every person's definition of "fantastically cheap" will vary.  And also it's XMas time, so some people have to buy their XMas gifts by a certain date (i.e. so that it arrives before Dec 25th), they can't just wait for it to drop to $2.

The Amazon discounting algorithm is basically an easy way to see what items at your local Walmart and TRU are likely going to become pegwarmers (and eventually clearanced out). Whatever you see dropping in price to something really, REALLY cheap, is a future pegwarmer/clearance item at the physical store.  Going by that logic, then 5POA Rose and Hux are the lame ducks while Jedi Exile Luke, General Leia, Yoda, and R2D2 are likely gone from the pegs first...

Scout Report / Re: Annual Canadian Tire pre-Christmas Sale
« on: December 20, 2017, 10:53:36 PM »
Maybe the sale is only at those stores which have excess stock of the 3-pack... whereas stores where it's been selling well can just keep to the $35 pricetag. 

I'm sure though that even those stores will eventually put them on markdown (certainly after XMas is over).  I do like this set myself, despite some minor issues with each figure, but I would never buy it unless it was $20 or less. Even then, I'd use up some of my Canadian Tire money to get a bigger discount, since no way is that Luke worth $7... (that's assuming 3 figures * $7 = $21 pricetag).

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 20, 2017, 10:50:51 PM »
Are you sure about that... sounds like fake news put out by Disney.   
I actually started reading through several posts - not sure how one person could hack and write all those different post.  Mind you, I did not read the 100,000 post that are there.

No, Disney wasn't the one... the story broke because a specific person apparently bragged about how he hacked the audience vote as an act of revenge and to push Disney to restore the old EU. Sheesh, true or not, that's a great way to come off as the ultimate loser if you ask me. The people behind Rotten Tomatoes swear that the 56% rating is real (which they basically have to, they'd look like complete idiots if one person actually did manage to drastically alter one of their metrics so easily, it'd destroy the credibility of ALL of their audience rankings for every movie). 

Here's a link to the latest:

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 20, 2017, 01:42:23 PM »
Has anybody read the negative reviews on rotten tomatoes?   Man, am I ever glad to have Snowtroopers to discuss the movie.   The reason it is getting 55% is there are a lot of very mad people  :mad0177:, giving it 1/2 to 1 star.

TLJ has gotten a 55% audience review because Rotten Tomatoes apparently got "hacked" and there's a disgruntled fan who has been biasing the votes towards the negative side. We'll see in time how fans feel about the movie, being the middle child in the trilogy can be a difficult spot...

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 18, 2017, 10:12:38 AM »
I doubt my feelings about Luke will change, but you never know : )

Search your feelings, you know it will be more enjoyable on a second viewing :)

The more I think about it, the more I like how the climax was set up. Luke had to be a Force projection; the audience wanted a Luke vs Kylo confrontation, but the only problem is that despite Kylo's obvious skill and power, I think Luke would easily outmatch and kill Kylo in any physical duel. And storywise, it isn't Luke's job any more to be the main hero who defeats Kylo, it is Rey's. 

So by making Luke a projection who can't really lay a hand on Kylo, we can still see a confrontation of sorts, but Luke can't really defeat Kylo directly (yet he can still heroically hold him off in order to save his friends and bow out of the saga with nobility and grace).

Edit: Rian seems to be confirming that Kylo was not lying to Rey about her parents, it was genuinely what he believes too:

“They were filthy junk traders,” Kylo Ren told her. “Sold you off for drinking money. They’re dead in a pauper’s grave in the Jakku desert. You come from nothing. You’re nothing, but not to me.”

This revelation sent some Star Wars fans reeling (though I personally loved it), and others insist it’s not actually true, that Kylo Ren was tricking her in order to secure her support. Surely, there’s something else he knows, right, something he’s keeping hidden from her so she doesn’t learn the truth about who she really is? According to The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson, nope.

“For me, in that moment, Kylo believes it’s the truth,” Johnson told Entertainment Weekly. “I don’t think he’s purely playing chess. I think that’s what he saw when they touched fingers and that’s what he believes. And when he tells her that in that moment, she believes it.”

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 17, 2017, 03:47:50 AM »
If this movie was *really* daring, take all of Vice Admiral Holdo's lines, and give them to a still living Admiral Ackbar. Everything from stunning the group to sacrificing himself.

Movie is so much better IMHO if Ackbar doesn't just die off-screen.  Sorry Laura Dern, you were cute but the wrong choice by a mile.

I thought the same thing - that Ackbar could've been used in place of Holdo. However I do think there was a reason why they did not: the voice actor for Ackbar passed away not that long after TFA.  I suppose they could've used the actor who did Admiral Raddus in R1 (the voice actually did seem pretty close...) but perhaps it was decided not to rankle fans by momentarily turning Ackbar into an antagonistic figure (and then killing him off).

The realization of Ackbar being among the dead/sucked out into space, didn't hit home for me until one of the characters said that all of the Resistance leadership had been killed in the bombing (I had just assumed Ackbar was in the bathroom at the time, far from the bridge). I mumbled to myself, "But... but, Hasbro just put out a pricey 6" 2-pack with Ackbar in it...!!!! He can't be dead!"  So RIP Ackbar and Luke.  One of you gets to come back as a ghost in the next film, the other one will get a MonCalamari cruiser named after them in eps9...

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