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Scout Report / Re: Post Retail Finds of NEW PRODUCT Here!
« on: April 23, 2018, 07:19:22 AM »
Which versions? I read it as Solo movie basic figures - were these 6" Black Series?

Yup.  Had Jawa and DS Trooper too but no Tarkins.

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Scout Report / Re: Post Retail Finds of NEW PRODUCT Here!
« on: April 21, 2018, 02:30:05 PM »
Just picked up Solo, Calrissian and the Range Trooper at - where else - EB Games. 

Best store out there, by far right now.

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Scout Report / Re: Post Retail Finds of NEW PRODUCT Here!
« on: April 14, 2018, 12:28:31 PM »
A EBGames near me had the Vintage Collection wave.  I basically held back a child-like jump for joy... until I got home ;)

EB Games has slowly become a place where I've gotten a lot of stuff, and the edge card price doesn't hurt. 

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: April 05, 2018, 08:07:02 PM »
Me too!  Excited for the barge, less so for the charge on my credit card!

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 30, 2018, 07:27:28 PM »
Yes, a carded Klaatu would be a nice surprise and thank you.  I bought one Barge, but kind of feel that this HasbroLab scheme is a very LAZY way for a big, for profit, toy company like Hasbro to bring a product to market and assume no risk.

I honestly don't blame them after seeing the disaster clearance sales of the 6" Tie Fighter, AT-ACT and many other large ticket items.  Doubling down on those with an "EVEN BIGGER!" item would be death. 

And you know that everyone would just wait for clearance...

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Wampa Cave / Re: an update from TRU USA
« on: March 29, 2018, 02:10:59 PM »

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 29, 2018, 12:59:01 PM »
Another 177 barges backed in the last 24hrs. Yay!
And about that many more in the last 12 hrs.

It took on 14 hours to get from 4000-4200.  Currently at 4201.

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 29, 2018, 09:54:06 AM »
I don't see this missing now. 

So now to figure out where in the basement I can fit this thing...

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:21:23 PM »
A decent Toy Shop should buy at least 1 of this to keep in store. Two would even be best. :)

If I owned a Toy Shop with possibility to resell this in Toy Shows or at the shop, with an access to a mass of customers, I'd certainly jump in and buy just more than one barge. No shops makes it difficult to resell due to the size of this thing which complicates the shipping logistics outside of selling the item directly to an in-store customer. I thought about it in the last few weeks and it simply makes no sense without a physical store with potential customer attraction.

Let's face it: in 2-3 years time, this will be the most sought after toy ever produced by Hasbro. Prices will climb up by at least 200%, if not more. The Legacy Millennium Falcon sold at the original price of 250$ later sells for 400-500$ loose and not even complete. This should be a good testimony of what this Barge represents as reselling potential.  :P

And to top this, Hasbro gave another good incentive: an exclusive figure produced at no more than 5000 units. Just consider that no toy run nowadays (even back in the Kenner days) was profitable under the 10,000 units. At 5000 units, the Barge will be the lowest production run produced by Hasbro. And so will the POTF carded version of YakFace. In 2-3 years, seeing what we see for the TVC figures on eBay currently, this thing alone will be worth about as much of what the vintage Kenner Yak Face figure can be sold nowadays (okay, the loose version).  :)

So a reseller has the possibility to resell the Barge complete and MISB (even in the shipping box) for 2-3 times of the original price. Or, you'd have the possibility to offer it at 2 times the price with a MIB (opened) version... and to cash in with a MOC POTF-carded YakFace for 400-500$.

So backing more than 1 barge makes perfect sense for a toy shop.

In fact, it would make perfect sense for anyone provided they have the money. I'd do it for sure if I had the extra cash. Which I have not. Not at this time, sadly, considering I'm just emerging from the troubled waters of loosing my job last year and my wife surviving cancer. But if I had, I'd go for it 100%.  ;D

I don't disagree with anything you said, but I think the after-market price of the barge and Yak-face is unlikely to climb to the heights you described. 

That being said, I also think anyone who thinks they will get a barge or a Yak Face for "deal" afterwards is sorely mistaken.  The only people who might be holding out are those who are interested in one the pieces.  Like if all you want is the Yakface, and you're willing to pay $300 - that's more likely a going rate. And so you "save" $200 for doing that.  Course that also means someone just got a $200 barge, and so why not have that ALSO be you?

Any way you cut it, trying to game the system on the aftermarket sure looks like a fools game.

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 22, 2018, 07:32:03 AM »
Barge counter = 3107
It gained so much today!
 :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Let's see how it does tomorrow. It got about 300 since the Yak announcement.  If we see another couple hundred today things will be looking brighter on getting to 5K.

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 21, 2018, 06:56:36 PM »
It'd be stupid from Hasbro to tell people they produce the Barge even if they only reach 3500 or 4000 or less than 5000 backers.

Agreed.  That's why they said they wouldn't.

What people need to understand is that Hasbro are not amateurs. This plan was well-conceived, well planned. They studied the crowdfunding principles and it's quite obvious they are following the "rules".

Disagreed there.  It was not well conceived or planned in many respects, not limited to excluding Canada initially and having very little exposure beyond niche websites.

They didn't throw a bonus pack-in a hurry. This POTF MOC YakFace figure is a well thought of last minute bait to attract more people. They knew they would need it. Throwing bonus stuff like that is the way to do a successfull crowdfunding campaign. Anyone who has been customers of Kickstarter projects, or who have launched such projects (my wife did last year for a book) know how this thing work. At 2/3 or so of your campaign, you need to give a huge update to make the campaign breathe. And you also need to give your backers the feeling that you're giving them a brand new bonus...
 

Agreed, but I secretly think they were hoping to get to 5000 without having to dangle more carrots... possibly I'm being overly suspicious. ;)

Look at this article from 4lomtozuckuss.com, it's well explained:

The Sail Barge Sailing Toward Full-Funding

I've seen that graph floating around.  However, I think it's pretty pretty poor comparison.  Crowdfunding efforts normally involve smaller donations and pay-as-much-as-you-can with a ladder of what you receive.  Few are flat-out, give us X amount and we'll make it or not and fewer are for $500USD... for a toy!

I'll be very , very surprised if the barge follows that graph.

So yes, the campaign will be successful. Whether it reaches 5000k backers or not. At this point, Hasbro knows they have succeeded. They just are not stupid enough to tell us. They still want to hit the 5000 backers.

I think so too, but I'm not holding my breath.  I'm prepared to be wrong.  My wallet would like that, but I want the toy... and the promise of more cool stuff like this.

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 21, 2018, 01:22:41 PM »
OMG!!! HasLab is now going to include an exclusive carded Yak Face on vintage power of the force card with every Sail Barge purchase.

You guys know what you need to do!......DON'T MAKE ME SAY IT.................

BACK THE BARGE!.....too late, I said it.

I now feel as though I backed 3 Yak Faces and I get 3 Sail Barges as an added bonus.

Listen, if you can't back the barge,  at least BACK THE YAK!!!

I was just explaining to a co-worker who was slightly interested in the economics of the thing, that it's likely there are people who'd pay $500 for the Yak-Face and be happy with just that!

That being said, I still don't think that this is gonna make it to 5k.  However, I'm also not convince that Hasbro can look at $1.5 million + dollars and flush it all away either, despite assurances it won't go unless they hit 5k.

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Wampa Cave / Re: an update from TRU USA
« on: March 21, 2018, 08:17:56 AM »
If MGA and other toy companies did get together and buy up TRU Canada I can't see how that would work. If one of TRU's main problems is that they're not competitive enough because of their prices, how are they supposed to compete with walmart and amazon aggressively if those same toy companies (that hypothetically now own toys r us) are also trying to sell product to walmart and amazon?  I can't blame them for trying though.

I thought about this in particular so more, and really, when it comes down to it TRU has one thing going for it - selection.  They compete well there.

I think about my younger daughter who is huge into My Little Pony and the nearly full short aisle you get at TRU with basically the full product line on sale versus what you get a Walmart (which is essentially the basics or less) and wonder what would happen to these toy lines if you took TRU away.  If you are just a SW action figure collector, you may not see it, because Walmart/Target basically has you covered.   Better yet, take a stroll in the Barbie aisle in TRU and then compare it to Walmart. I can understand why Mattel and Hasbro are in trouble.  Their lines are going to shrink.   

Of course maybe that's a good thing for those people who are mainly collectors like ourselves.  TRU put a LOT of shelf space into role-play items which I specifically see on clearance all the time - for SW these items are generally crap (think all the blasters and masks and everything).  TRU was the one buying most of this crap. 

I'm sure the closure will send a shockwave across the industry.  Maybe that's just what this industry needs, though.

Final thought.  One thing that always struck me as crazy is that with Funko Pops being SO popular, why TRU didn't clear out a whole aisle for those things and become *the* place to get them is beyond me.  How EB Games (good on them) and Hot Topic became the place to get these over TRU is beyond me.



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Scout Report / Re: Post Retail Finds of NEW PRODUCT Here!
« on: March 16, 2018, 05:50:52 PM »
So Today I picked up the Disney Toybox Figures - Ren, Rey, FO Stormtrooper and Darth Vader.

I gotta say - once again great value from Disney.  For $16 ($13 on sale right now), you get a 5" figure with a bunch of articulation (i think 16 points on the Rey my daughter opened).

Now, yes, they are "Cartoonish".  Much like the Disney infinity figures.  But as action figures, especially for kids, they are much better than any other offering. 

And yes, the Elite Series is still pretty good (but more expensive at regular price).  But I think Disney has something with these. I know my kid likes them more already than 3.75 inch figures already.

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The Vintage Collection (TVC) / Re: TVC - Jabba's sail Barge!!!!!
« on: March 16, 2018, 11:53:32 AM »
The UK has a population just over 65 million.  So possibly another 600 pieces backed. Not sure how strong Star Wars collecting is in the UK. Dorkside toys is looking at making the Barge available to UK collectors.

UK is big on SW.  UK + Germany would probably put them close.

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