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Scout Report / Re: amazon deals
« on: December 30, 2017, 02:20:51 AM »
All I know is the more I cancel my orders , the more the price goes down.  Maybe I have found a loop hole in amazon's programming .

I am going to buy a Porsche from Amazon this way. Just keep cancelling until I can get it for $10.

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 30, 2017, 02:19:45 AM »
(insert eps9 here)

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 27, 2017, 01:40:13 PM »
I think 100% we will see that Kylo Ren and Rey are brother and sister.

Let's not forget, the Porgs will overrun the Imperia--- I mean, the First Order, troops and save the day. Then... there will be a big dance party at the end.

Wampa Cave / Re: Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year
« on: December 24, 2017, 05:14:38 PM »
I hope everyone has a very happy holiday and that Santa brings them what they wished for most. 

May the teets of the Ach-to milk creature always provide you with much blue-green milk to drink from!

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 22, 2017, 01:43:50 AM »
Here's an interesting extract from a talkback... another way in which reaction to the film was gauged. It talks about the critical response, which on RT was high, and then the fan reaction... one talkbacker noted:

Last Jedi is like the 2016 Presidential election. Trump won the electoral college but not the popular vote. Critics gave the movie 93% but Critics arent devoted Star Wars fans they are movie reviewers their criteria for what a good Star wars film isnt the same as a Star Wars fan. Same goes for general Audiences--who love Last Jedi. I separate serious fan from general audience or casual fan. A serious fan buys the books, the toys, the visual guides..are steeped in SW lore. Sort of like a sports team fan who has season tickets, jerseys, trading cards, posters. And a fan that catches an occasional game. There is a distinction.

The reply from another talkbacker:
I think it's a good distinction too, that's why the surveymonkey exitpoll makes for such interesting reading. 4441 randomly selected audience members were screened over the first 4 days of screenings, but they made your distinction asking people whether they considered themselves regular fans / or hardcore fans, and the polled data remained at 89% liked / loved it between both groups.

Interestingly the split of liked/ loved it in the folks who described themselves as regular fans was 66% and 34%, and the split between the folks who described themselves as hardcore fans was actually much higher: 37% liked it and 66% loved it.

Overall the exit poll tallies with others like comscore/ postTrak etc, but the distinction is what made this one interesting. Anyhoo, all food for thought.

I would trust an exit poll more than I would ever trust the audience score on RT, although maybe after second or third viewings, those fans changed their minds again?  That would be called "pulling a JJReason"  :)

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 22, 2017, 12:03:47 AM »
It's hard to believe one guy in a position like that (not a significantly powerful one, by my assessment), can rally enough help from other morons to influence things. Goes to show how fragile some things on the internet - ie veracity of information - still are. Make sure you read as many sides of a story as you can these days!  :speechless-smiley-004:

Please note that according to this article, this one guy was using bots, not other humans, to help push the audience score lower... bots of course, being the equivalent to a 21st century army that can be used to bias polls, spread fake news, tie up website resources, etc.  It's like your own personal clone army :)

Oh, I personally liked most of the humor in the movie (the early scene with Poe trying to stall Hux was dumb though, as was Finn's leaking bacta suit).  Really, when Chewie executes a hard turn of the Falcon and that Porg smashes up against the cockpit window?  That will continue to get me whenever I see that moment, even 10 years from now... I have not laughed that hard in a SW flick in a long, long time.

Online Shopping - Who's Got the Hot Items??? / Re: Updates
« on: December 21, 2017, 02:32:19 PM »
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that the Amazon price drops happen because a certain item isn't selling well enough according to some internal metric.  So their system begins discounting it daily until the lowered price attracts enough buyers to reduce the inventory level of that item.

That theoretically should mean that if SW collectors can restrain themselves long enough, then the item would drop to some fantastically cheap price before it gets bought up... although every person's definition of "fantastically cheap" will vary.  And also it's XMas time, so some people have to buy their XMas gifts by a certain date (i.e. so that it arrives before Dec 25th), they can't just wait for it to drop to $2.

The Amazon discounting algorithm is basically an easy way to see what items at your local Walmart and TRU are likely going to become pegwarmers (and eventually clearanced out). Whatever you see dropping in price to something really, REALLY cheap, is a future pegwarmer/clearance item at the physical store.  Going by that logic, then 5POA Rose and Hux are the lame ducks while Jedi Exile Luke, General Leia, Yoda, and R2D2 are likely gone from the pegs first...

Scout Report / Re: Annual Canadian Tire pre-Christmas Sale
« on: December 20, 2017, 10:53:36 PM »
Maybe the sale is only at those stores which have excess stock of the 3-pack... whereas stores where it's been selling well can just keep to the $35 pricetag. 

I'm sure though that even those stores will eventually put them on markdown (certainly after XMas is over).  I do like this set myself, despite some minor issues with each figure, but I would never buy it unless it was $20 or less. Even then, I'd use up some of my Canadian Tire money to get a bigger discount, since no way is that Luke worth $7... (that's assuming 3 figures * $7 = $21 pricetag).

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 20, 2017, 10:50:51 PM »
Are you sure about that... sounds like fake news put out by Disney.   
I actually started reading through several posts - not sure how one person could hack and write all those different post.  Mind you, I did not read the 100,000 post that are there.

No, Disney wasn't the one... the story broke because a specific person apparently bragged about how he hacked the audience vote as an act of revenge and to push Disney to restore the old EU. Sheesh, true or not, that's a great way to come off as the ultimate loser if you ask me. The people behind Rotten Tomatoes swear that the 56% rating is real (which they basically have to, they'd look like complete idiots if one person actually did manage to drastically alter one of their metrics so easily, it'd destroy the credibility of ALL of their audience rankings for every movie). 

Here's a link to the latest:

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 20, 2017, 01:42:23 PM »
Has anybody read the negative reviews on rotten tomatoes?   Man, am I ever glad to have Snowtroopers to discuss the movie.   The reason it is getting 55% is there are a lot of very mad people  :mad0177:, giving it 1/2 to 1 star.

TLJ has gotten a 55% audience review because Rotten Tomatoes apparently got "hacked" and there's a disgruntled fan who has been biasing the votes towards the negative side. We'll see in time how fans feel about the movie, being the middle child in the trilogy can be a difficult spot...

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 18, 2017, 10:12:38 AM »
I doubt my feelings about Luke will change, but you never know : )

Search your feelings, you know it will be more enjoyable on a second viewing :)

The more I think about it, the more I like how the climax was set up. Luke had to be a Force projection; the audience wanted a Luke vs Kylo confrontation, but the only problem is that despite Kylo's obvious skill and power, I think Luke would easily outmatch and kill Kylo in any physical duel. And storywise, it isn't Luke's job any more to be the main hero who defeats Kylo, it is Rey's. 

So by making Luke a projection who can't really lay a hand on Kylo, we can still see a confrontation of sorts, but Luke can't really defeat Kylo directly (yet he can still heroically hold him off in order to save his friends and bow out of the saga with nobility and grace).

Edit: Rian seems to be confirming that Kylo was not lying to Rey about her parents, it was genuinely what he believes too:

“They were filthy junk traders,” Kylo Ren told her. “Sold you off for drinking money. They’re dead in a pauper’s grave in the Jakku desert. You come from nothing. You’re nothing, but not to me.”

This revelation sent some Star Wars fans reeling (though I personally loved it), and others insist it’s not actually true, that Kylo Ren was tricking her in order to secure her support. Surely, there’s something else he knows, right, something he’s keeping hidden from her so she doesn’t learn the truth about who she really is? According to The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson, nope.

“For me, in that moment, Kylo believes it’s the truth,” Johnson told Entertainment Weekly. “I don’t think he’s purely playing chess. I think that’s what he saw when they touched fingers and that’s what he believes. And when he tells her that in that moment, she believes it.”

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 17, 2017, 03:47:50 AM »
If this movie was *really* daring, take all of Vice Admiral Holdo's lines, and give them to a still living Admiral Ackbar. Everything from stunning the group to sacrificing himself.

Movie is so much better IMHO if Ackbar doesn't just die off-screen.  Sorry Laura Dern, you were cute but the wrong choice by a mile.

I thought the same thing - that Ackbar could've been used in place of Holdo. However I do think there was a reason why they did not: the voice actor for Ackbar passed away not that long after TFA.  I suppose they could've used the actor who did Admiral Raddus in R1 (the voice actually did seem pretty close...) but perhaps it was decided not to rankle fans by momentarily turning Ackbar into an antagonistic figure (and then killing him off).

The realization of Ackbar being among the dead/sucked out into space, didn't hit home for me until one of the characters said that all of the Resistance leadership had been killed in the bombing (I had just assumed Ackbar was in the bathroom at the time, far from the bridge). I mumbled to myself, "But... but, Hasbro just put out a pricey 6" 2-pack with Ackbar in it...!!!! He can't be dead!"  So RIP Ackbar and Luke.  One of you gets to come back as a ghost in the next film, the other one will get a MonCalamari cruiser named after them in eps9...

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 17, 2017, 03:36:14 AM »
It is fun to see how different our tastes can be, though - we are all huge Star Wars fans, but the same scene can be loved or hated - many have commented on Luke and Yoda's scene being their favourite (it was one of mine, except for the burning of the tree), while others (Cmdr Bacara, for example) found it really annoying. And then there's Napseeker, who seems to have the complete opposite view from JJ on just about everything! It's so hard to please us fans! :scared0008:

I exist to be the anti-matter to JJreason's hopes and dreams :)

But seriously, I find it hilarious that the apparent majority of fans dislike TLJ whereas I am overjoyed by what I got.  I read some of their comments about why they didn't like TLJ in various talkbacks across the net and my first reaction was "Ah, so now you guys know how I feel about TFA..."   My friend and I once got into a polite argument about why he loved TFA and why I hated it; he acknowledged the various flaws about TFA that I pointed out but in the end, said that it reminded him of Star Wars, of being in the SW universe again (after the failure of the prequels to capture that feeling) and because of that he could overlook the flaws and rate the film as enjoyable. 

That is exactly the same for me for TLJ: there are flaws about TLJ (the Canto Bight scenes and Finn's entire arc bordered on pointless and are easily the dullest moments of the film... DJ and Holdo and Paige all turned out to be smaller roles than anyone thought, but I did like that DJ turned out to be the anti-Lando and that his betrayal really devastated the Resistance forces). But this film did capture that feeling of being in the SW universe again, and I had no issues with the porg humor or Luke drinking blue milk, or how Luke died (I dreaded a JJAbrams-type lazy homage where he might just stand there and let Kylo swing at him, and evaporate into a ghost... ugh, you know that's what he would've done...).   

I LOVED that Leia finally got to use the Force at last, that spacewalk didn't come across as bad or awkward at all!  She was about to die, she either found the Force within her (in kind of an "adrenaline rush" that happens when you are in mortal danger) or it found her, and made it to safety.  Those who wished that she had died then and there, I say no way!  We already missed out on a Luke and Han reunion in TFA, were we really going to lose out on a Luke and Leia reunion too?  No EFFING way. I'm glad they kept it as is - that moment when they are reunited in person (sort of) was really needed, and if Luke was going to sacrifice himself for anyone, it'd be to protect Leia and her rebellion. He died a hero (and let's not forget, he humiliated the new Supreme Leader in front of all his forces!  Nice!)

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 17, 2017, 03:20:08 AM »
Just one more comment before I head off to watch it again....

Episode IX doesn't have to directly follow TLJ time wise.  I think it will be set several years later.  They could even start with Leia's funeral.

I personally was never against the idea of putting in a CGI Leia for eps9, so long as they spend a huge amount of time to make it look real; but if they aren't going that route (which is what Kathleen Kennedy confirmed) then yeah, start eps9 many, many years later and with Leia's funeral. It will mark the full transition to the next generation where they carry the story almost completely (but with obvious cameos by Force Luke, R2, Chewie, 3PO...)

It was always a huge mistake to end TFA with a cliffhanger that required eps8 to pick up immediately from eps7. SW films have always built in some passage of time between each film so that you can have EU stories that chronicle what happened during this period... we could've had old Luke and old Han go on some adventures between 7 and 8 for example... for 8 to 9, allowing for years to pass between the two films will at least restore the proper way that breaks between films should've been handled. We can have more adventures of old Leia trying to build the new rebellion until her funeral at the open of eps9.

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII - THE LAST JEDI
« on: December 16, 2017, 08:33:23 AM »
I'm always amazed at how my opinion is almost the exact opposite of everyone else's.  I've made no secret that I thought The Force Awakens was a steaming piece of garbage (times 20) and really, any complaints about Luke not living up to his potential is more the fault of JJAbrams' poor writing skills, not Rian's.

I loved TLJ.  It had everything for me that TFA was completely and wholly missing: I felt tension/fear for the lives of all of the characters, both the old cast and the new cast. I remember feeling nothing, no tension at all, during the entirety of the boring TFA. There was never any sense of danger whatsoever to our heroes. 

I didn't like Finn in TFA (mostly due to the poor writing, not the fault of the actor) but I felt genuinely worried as he raced towards what seemed to be his doom.  I thought "No! Don't do it Finn!!!" which even caught me by surprise...

Rey who I so wanted to love in TFA ultimately was a disappointing Mary Sue who didn't really undergo any serious trials that would make me respect her as a potential hero - well in TLJ she gets the stuffing genuinely knocked out of her and faces some tough choices that had me guessing where she'd go. Unlike the last film, I felt nothing could be predicted or taken for granted; I love that.

Nothing had me in total shock more than Snoke's unexpected death and Kylo's rise to Supreme Leader - it makes sense to me for Rian to foil the audience expectation that Snoke would just hang around for the next film for his eventual defeat by Rey somehow. Nope!  Here we have Kylo doing what Vader could not do: the apprentice killed his master and became the new master. NICE.

I understand Luke's (momentary) temptation to kill Ben. He has firsthand experience with Vader and knows that he can't allow another Vader to be unleashed on the galaxy. It's the classic "if you could kill Hitler as a child", would you do it?  The key thing is that he stopped himself. He didn't actually try to do it and that for me, preserved Luke's character. I was also fearful that Luke wouldn't get a chance to show any bad-assery before he might've died. No need to worry at all.  And for anyone disappointed by his death, my only feeling is that Han had a far more insulting death - FAR MORE - I've already wrote about that in another thread. Luke died at peace. He didn't get gutted like a piece of meat or died like a punk. He came to save the fragile remains of the new Rebellion at the time of its greatest need and darkest moment. He saved Leia.  He got to die a hero, unlike Han. That's good enough for me.

This film makes up for TFA in spades. Two thumbs up from me.

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