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Title: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on May 06, 2012, 05:39:22 PM
Someone check this over & let me know if I'm on track. Ever since the initial offering of new figures on vintage-style cards I've been saving the packaging in hopes of one day having a complete set of cardbacks, without the vintage price. I'm mainly worried about the photos used - for instance I've marked General Lando as being done even though the new card wasn't done in the POTF or Tri-Logo style from the mid 80s and Chewbacca as done under ANH, even though the cardback I have is a ROTJ one.....

EDITED - List updated to the best of my ability for a score of 60/105 card photos re-released. Let me know if I'm missing anything.

ANH Done (16/25):

Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi
Chewbacca
Darth Vader
Darth Vader (ROTJ closeup card)
Han Solo
Imperial Navy Commander (Death Squad/Star Destroyer Commander)
Luke Skywalker
Princess Leia Organa
Sand People
See Threepio
Stormtrooper
Greedo
Luke X-Wing
R5-D4
R2-D2 - NEW! 2019 TVC
Jawa - NEW! 2019 TVC

ANH Not Done:

Snaggletooth
Power Droid
Hammerhead
Ponda Baba (Walrusman)
Death Star Droid
Luke Skywalker (ROTJ gunner card)
Chewbacca (ROTJ Endor card)
Han Solo (ROTJ smirking card)
Ben Obi Wan Kenobi (ROTJ hooded card)

ESB Done (20/34):

Artoo Detoo w Sensorscope
Boba Fett (I include him here to even out the numbers, I appreciate he could/should be in under ANH)
AT-AT Commander
Bossk
Dengar
Han Solo (Bespin)
Han Solo (Hoth)
Hoth Rebel Soldier (picture slightly off - same series, costume, actor - close enough for me)
IG-88
Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear)
Lando
Leia (Hoth)
Leia (Bespin)
Luke (Bespin)
Luke (Hoth)
TIE Fighter Pilot
Twin Pod Cloud Car Pilot
Yoda
Zuckuss
4-LOM


ESB Not Done:

Boba Fett (Skiff card)
Lobot
Hoth Rebel Commander
FX7
Imperial Commander
Bespin Guard 1
Bespin Guard 2
Ugnaught
AT-AT Driver
See Threepio (removable limbs)
Luke (Bespin) (ESB closeup card)
Leia (Bespin) (ESB 2nd card)
Yoda (ROTJ 2nd card)
21B

ROTJ Done (20/31):

Admiral Ackbar
Biker Scout
Gamorrean Guard
Han (Endor)
Logray
Luke (Jedi)
Leia (Endor)
Lumat
Nien Nunb
Nikto Skiff Guard
Orimaarko/Prune Face
Rebel Commando
Weequay
Wicket
Wooof (Klaatu)
B-Wing
Lando (Skiff) NEW! 2019 US WalMart Exclusive!
Leia (Boushh) NEW! 2019 TVC!
Klaatu Skiff Guard NEW! 2019 TVC!
Ree Yees NEW! 2019 Jabba's Palace Set! US WalMart Exclusive!

ROTJ Not Done:

Bib Fortuna
Chief Chirpa
Squid Head
General Madine
Teebo
AT-ST Driver
The Emperor
Emperor's Royal Guard
Rancor Keeper
8D8
Paploo

POTF Done (4/15):

Kithaba (Barada)
Lando (General)
Yak Face NEW! 2019 TVC and/or Jabba's Sail Barge Exclusive with Coin!
Han Cabronite NEW! 2019 Jabba's Palace Set US WalMart Exclusive!

POTF Not Done:

Artoo (saber)
EV-9D9
Warok
Romba
Luke (Stormtrooper)
Imperial Dignitary
Imperial Gunner
Anakin Skywalker
Luke (Endor)
Amanaman
A-Wing Pilot






Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: trooper on May 06, 2012, 09:59:10 PM
total  46/93

very nice list
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Thirdfloor on May 06, 2012, 11:01:59 PM
Nikto is on its way in wave 5.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on May 06, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
They could easily mock up cards & re-release figures to fill in at least 1/2 of those blanks (a la TIE & B-Wing Pilots). I'm glad that you mentioned Nikto, he was one of the very few remaining vintage figures that hadn't seen a proper re-release in the modern era - the cardback is simply a bonus in that case.  :)`
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Goldenrod on May 07, 2012, 05:13:31 AM
you can add these photo variation not yet done:
Chewbacca
Luke Skywalker
Han Solo
Darth Vader
Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi
Boba Fett
Luke Skywalker (Bespin)
Leia Organa (Bespin)
Yoda
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Bounty Hunter-CK on May 07, 2012, 10:37:42 AM
I mostly want Boba Fett on the desert scene card :fett: :love0030:
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on May 07, 2012, 06:08:07 PM
Excellent goldenrod, added those photo variations. Not the biggest concern to me, but I was surprised that there were actual different photos used - I had always remembered them as altered versions of the same photos. The Luke gunner one is actually pretty desirable.  :speechless-smiley-004:
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Goldenrod on May 08, 2012, 10:22:51 PM
one more to scrath from the missing:
(http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20120508/images/vader_card.jpg)

And two new ones:
(http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20120508/images/shock_card.jpg) (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20120508/images/sand_card.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Darth Cujo on May 08, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Awsome! Nice to see the vader variant. The blue "lightning" is a bit detracting from the carded look, but it's still nice to see. Loving the orange pauldron sandtrooper, especially with the dewback in the background of the photo. Nicely placed. I'll be getting both of these carded. Not sure about loose, only if they're different enough.

And nice list jj. I had compiled a similar list though I haven't updated it recently. My main hope is that each character gets released on the card with the logo from the movie they first appeared in. So I'm still waiting for SW carded R2-D2 and Chewbacca for example.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Darth McAdam on May 08, 2012, 11:47:21 PM
Hey Goldenrod; where'd you get the images?  I don't recall seeing them before...
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Goldenrod on May 09, 2012, 05:20:17 AM
sandtroopers.com
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on May 09, 2012, 12:21:43 PM
I haven't been keeping up on vintage styled cards for characters that were never released in the old days. At my house those are recycling just like any clone wars or other toy packaging... but I agree, the Sandtrooper one is great (as was the Rebel Fleet Trooper, I nearly kept that one).
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Thirdfloor on May 29, 2012, 07:28:18 AM
Pruneface, Nein Nunb and Royal Gaurd should also be out later this year.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: trooper on June 25, 2012, 10:02:04 PM
green dot : released in 3-pack (or in futur vintage pack)
red dot : released on vintage card ( or in the futur)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg9/scaled.php?server=9&filename=poweroftheforcecardback.jpg&res=landing)
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Thirdfloor on June 25, 2012, 10:46:29 PM
Nice photo reference with the 92 cardback. :)`
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on July 03, 2012, 06:40:43 PM
That is nice, but that card misses 2 artoos & a 3PO that you need to keep straight - we still haven't seen the lightsaber R2 or the original 12 back artoo for that matter, and we need the pull apart 3po.  :speechless-smiley-004:
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on July 21, 2012, 07:50:16 AM
For my own mental health I'm doing this list here so I don't lose it & can refer later.  :speechless-smiley-004: Please check my amendments of the original post if you have time.

I'm at 45 cards myself & know that I'm missing 4LOM & Zuckuss (I want that bloody 2 pack, let me tell you, and Winners here turned up ZIP ZERO ZILCH for me  :mad0137: ).

Oh, and Trooper I LOVED your visual aid - I certainly didn't mean to come off as overly critical which I'm worried I did. Please bring it back.  :love0030:
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: trooper on July 21, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
Visual is back I just forgot to included new pic address after  few change
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on July 21, 2012, 11:34:29 AM
Thank you Sir!  :)`

I almost want to start a thread called "Missed Opportunities" due to the photos chosen by Hasbro in a few cases, but it's really not THAT bad (mind you any "mistakes" are going to get the  :mad0177: from me when it comes to this). By my math, they SHOULD have the following scratched off the list - in fact I'll call it nonsense that they're not.

First off, we have to start with ESB Hoth Rebel Trooper and ROTJ Emperor's Royal Guard. These figures came out DURING the line for crying out loud, I DO NOT understand why they chose to go away from the original photos. The odds of us getting these 2 cards re-made with the proper photos must be about 0%.

Next up is ROTJ Fett on skiff card. I'm just going recycle 2 Fett cards because the original photo was used on all 3 versions that I had - and one of them has a Return of the Jedi logo on it!  Huh? :speechless-smiley-004:

Of the cards that have not yet been re-released there are a number of "between good enough & great" modern figures that would be worthy of being released as single-carded entries down the road (yes, I'm a big fan of the modern Ewoks & consider them worth the price of a full figure. The fact we got 2 in some of these packs was astounding to me), in my opinion those would include the following:

ANH

R2-D2 (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TLC/BattlePacks/ResurgenceofJedi/LC-2471.jpg)
Jawa (option 1) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC33Jawa.asp)
Jawa (option 2) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD39Jawa.asp)
Jawa (option 3) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC19jawa.asp)
Hammerhead (http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc031momaw.asp)
Snaggletooth (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2012/07/14/sdcc-2012-hasbro-presentation-images/star-wars-target-villian-pack-snaggletooth/)
Power Droid (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2012/07/14/sdcc-2012-hasbro-presentation-images/star-wars-target-droid-pack-power-droid/)

ESB

AT-AT Driver (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD49ATATDriver.asp)
Bespin Guard 2 (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD50WingEdian.asp)
Ugnaught (option 1) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC43ugnaught1.asp)
Ugnaught (option 2) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD28Ugnaught.asp)

ROTJ

Romba (http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC43ewoks.asp)
Leia - Boushh (http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC001leiaboushh.asp)
Chief Chripa (http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc039chirpa.asp)
Paploo (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD18Ewoks.asp)
The Emperor (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC39Emperor.asp)

POTF

A-Wing Pilot (option 1) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC44awing.asp)
A-Wing Pilot (option 2) (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TLC/Evolutions/RebelPilots3/LC-430.jpg)
Death Star Gunner (http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc041DSgunner.asp)
Luke - Stormtrooper (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC30Luke.asp)


Any other figures you guys recall that would be worth the price of purchase just to get an extra & that remade card?









Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Thirdfloor on July 22, 2012, 11:36:28 AM
Any other figures you guys recall that would be worth the price of purchase just to get an extra & that remade card?


Any of the 'expensive' vintage carded figures would be nice to have for fillers until the funds can be made available to have an original.  Yak Face, Amanaman, Carbo Han, Stormie Luke, ect.

It seems now, especially looking at the cardback visual provided by trooper that maybe they've been saving the POTF figures for the end of the Modern Vintage run.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Bounty Hunter-CK on July 22, 2012, 02:14:57 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/2012/tcvwave6-06.jpg)

Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Thirdfloor on July 22, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
This Lumat is an example of a modified original vintage cardback.  Alot of it is the same, but the tree has been removed.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on July 22, 2012, 03:57:02 PM
Funny the changes they choose to make. At least it looks like the same snap of the character. This same thing was taking place back in the day as well - check this photo of the changes in the Stormtrooper card - to me that's the same "focal point" Stormy, but his buddy has been removed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/larrytrooper/5180972735/
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on November 16, 2012, 09:05:00 PM
Of interest, at the very end of the run I realized we (I) had made an error about one of the cardbacks - the first Weequay card is not the vintage card. Good thing the latest one IS a remake of the proper vintage card so that we're not missing him from the collection.  :mad0218:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TVC/Basic/VC48Weequay/TVC-1392.jpg)

(http://spacehutt.co.uk/WebRoot/LCN/Shops/www_spacehutt_co_uk/508F/0B37/6DD2/F9CD/27DF/0A0C/05E8/3150/002405.JPG)
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on January 07, 2017, 07:36:57 AM
Not sure what caused me to go through these again today, but I noticed the picture of Ponda Baba used in the modern remake was NOT the same one used on the vintage card. Scratch one off the completed list. :(
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on April 14, 2018, 01:03:43 PM
Finally nice to be able to update this today with the release of Hoth Rebel Trooper. Looks like they reversed the image & changed the tint somewhat, but I'm counting it. :love0030:

(http://www.toysandposters.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/rebel-soldier-hoth-battle-gear-39750-vintage-1977-1985-kenner-star-wars-action-figure-front.jpg)

(http://www.action-figure-supplies.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/x/_/x_hase0370eu41_k_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Eradicator on April 23, 2018, 10:49:45 AM
The original card looks nice. Those bubbles are way to big.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Wedge1021 on April 23, 2018, 11:57:24 AM
Finally nice to be able to update this today with the release of Hoth Rebel Trooper. Looks like they reversed the image & changed the tint somewhat, but I'm counting it. :love0030:

Looks like it's a different photo - the posing is slightly different. Probably sourced clean from photo archives, that would explain the lighter tinting as well. And I think that the original photo may actually be the reversed image; the black cylinders on the right side of both of the figures' chests match the new photo, but is reversed in the old photo.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Darth Cujo on October 28, 2018, 08:57:22 PM
So it appears we are finally getting chewie and R2 on original SW card backs. As much as it sucks to get repacks filling slots in the vintage line I will be happy to have these for my carded vintage collection.
I'm certainly more excited about these than the 6" battle droid and padme.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on March 18, 2019, 12:48:05 PM
Looking forward to marking off Lando Skiff, Leia Boushh & Yak Face from this list. Really hoping WalMart gets some Landos up here.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on June 09, 2019, 06:25:51 PM
So far I've managed to get my hands on new Klaatu Skiff & Yak Face, thanks to a US friend in Cleveland. Really hoping against hope we'll get a chance to get the rest of these into our collections without so much friction, but..... that hope is fading. I've started pricing out Jabba's sets on ebay & it's really ugly.  :fighting0003:
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on July 14, 2019, 09:31:25 AM
R2 can come off the anh list (reminder for me to deal with that when I get home,). Painfully, the death star Gunner card is a rogue one pic.

Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Darth Cujo on July 14, 2019, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah the imperial gunner not being on an OT card is disappointing. A good example of how current hasbro is a bit out of touch with what fans would want in the vintage collection. Listening to derryl depriests interview he indicated the original intent of the VC was to bring out modern versions of all the original Kenner figures. Hasbro STILL hasn't gotten there yet. 
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on October 30, 2019, 08:42:50 AM
Found a Jawa this morning which brings my own personal collection of re-made vintage cards up to a cool 60/60.  :party0007: :party0053: :character0005: :rockon: :u: :)`


Although I am a questioning my sanity a little bit - the $20 for this figure seemed very expensive for what I got.... I haven't really questioned too many of these purchases since the inception of the vintage carded figures, but this one did get me thinking.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Eradicator on October 30, 2019, 10:45:30 AM
Yeah, some of the costing sucks on these things. It does hurt for sure.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Darth Cujo on October 30, 2019, 12:45:43 PM
I picked up a jawa today. All they had from that case was two jawas.  I had found a couple recently but neither had a perfect card and bubble. So I'm upgrading.

I agree $20 is nutso for what you get, not only the jawa but any of the vintage collection. But I'm buying a lot fewer now than I used to so I can still justify the cost.

Ironically I find myself wishing they used a smaller jawa and a smaller bubble. I'm not opening this jawa anyway (is anyone?) and the ridiculously massive bubble really takes away from the great classic image on the card.

So with the jawa and the recent chewie and R2, what are we missing on a Star Wars card from the original 12. I don't think we've gotten a proper stomtrooper or C-3PO.

Stomtrooper has been on ESB, ROTJ, Revenge and Rogue One cards but I don't think he's been done on a SW card.  :confused0024:
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: Wedge1021 on October 30, 2019, 01:18:21 PM
Stomtrooper has been on ESB, ROTJ, Revenge and Rogue One cards but I don't think he's been done on a SW card.  :confused0024:

I think you're right - even the old VOTC one was on ROTJ card, so can't even count that one.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: old man ben on October 30, 2019, 04:57:14 PM
I agree with everything Darth Cujo says about the new TVC Jawa, the big bubble , etc but especially the $20 price.  I don't think we even get more than the minimal 5 point articulation.  I saw two today in a Walmart but left them on the pegs - they just ain't worth the price in my opinion.
Title: Re: Vintage Cards Re-Done vs. Not Re-Done in the Modern Era
Post by: jjreason on October 31, 2019, 10:49:23 AM
Stomtrooper has been on ESB, ROTJ, Revenge and Rogue One cards but I don't think he's been done on a SW card.  :confused0024:

I think you're right - even the old VOTC one was on ROTJ card, so can't even count that one.

I counted the ROTJ version we got back in the VOTC line since the photo was the same (my own personal dividing line). The Rogue One stormy would have served our needs better by being on that photo card with Star Wars branding..... but I actually DO like the Rogue One pic as well & have been regretting not getting one when I was out in BC a few months ago.

Aside: Interesting we're all seeing 2 Jawas - I wonder if that's because the figure is the undesirable one from the full case or because there is another case of more  typical figures with a couple of Jawas thrown in as filler.....