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Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: Clone Wars Season 7!!
« on: February 25, 2020, 09:27:54 PM »
I enjoyed it, as well. A good start to the new season. Looking forward to one last ride with the Clone Wars!

Yes, it is in a weird spot. Very clever way of hiding it, though!

Wampa Cave / Re: Petition for General Merrick and his X-Wing
« on: January 25, 2020, 03:03:00 PM »
I have lots of x-wings, but wouldn't mind another, especially with General Merrick.

Scout Report / Re: Gold Wal-Mart exclusive figures
« on: January 02, 2020, 08:30:19 PM »
I saw these when I was in the US in early December, but not up here.

Off Topic / Re: Merry Christmas, troopers.
« on: December 29, 2019, 07:55:51 AM »
I am even slower, but Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to a great bunch of troopers!

I am not a huge fan of the Story Group. It does have two die-hard SW needs - Pablo Hidalgo and Leland Chee - but I think a huge piece of their work is just making sure that new stories donít violate existing continuity. I think the others have more control over direction, and I think they have made some not-so-great choices (including making all of the EU ďlegendsĒ).

There is an article on wookieepedia explaining a bit about the story group here. I think the last paragraph is sad - they actually encourage storytellers NOT to make connections. Those connections - tying stories together by going to familiar locations, etc. - has been one of the best things about SW for me.

Glad you liked it, OMB. Sorry to hear your son hated it, CJ, but your daughter does make a valid point. My biggest beef with the trilogy is the treatment of Luke, so if he was just some random Jedi, instead, maybe I would have felt differently.

Wedgeís comments reflect what I see with younger fans - and many of them are pre-teen. Teenagers of this era seem too old to get into much of anything like this. Glad you and your family enjoyed it.

While the love it or hate it is unfortunate, I was just thinking that there are some people who hated the OT as well. My brother-in-law, for one, who would have been about 9 years old when ANH came out, hates Star Wars. I canít understand it, but it is what it is. It is a bit more of a tragedy when a long time fan of SW hates a Star Wars movie, but with different story tellers, itís bound to happen. I wish they had stuck with one storyteller for all 3 films to make a more cohesive trilogy, but I do feel, personally, that TROS wrapped it up quite nicely.

I donít think Bob Iger is that worried about what the old fans think when every SW movie save for Solo has made more than $1 billion worldwide. It just proves to him that we arenít worth t Er Ong to please financially, so scrap anything relating to the OT and go with brand new stuff, so I think that is the future of Star Wars, whether we want it to be or not.

The key thing about how Bob Iger thinks is that he doesn't want to pay royalties to George Lucas to use the Lucas-era OT/PT designs in future Disney projects (or at least, he wants to minimize as much as possible, how much he has to pay George).  When Lucas sold SW to Disney, Lucas wanted Disney to pay way more than what Disney felt it was worth... he at least wanted Disney to pay more to own SW than they had paid to own Marvel.  However, the assets behind Marvel made it worth far more than Lucasfilm so the Disney beancounters wouldn't give in.

Eventually, Lucas settled on an amount that was apparently about half a billion above what Disney had paid for Marvel.  Personally I don't know why Lucas was so insistent on beating out the Marvel purchase price, maybe it's an ego thing, because it makes SW seem more important to pop culture than say X-Men, SpiderMan, etc.  Whatever...  but then I think what Lucas did to ensure that eventually Disney would still give him the money that he had originally wanted upfront for the SW sale, was that the contract would specify any use of OT/PT designs would result in payouts to Lucas.

Unfortunately for Lucas, that kind of stipulation probably had unintended consequences, in that Iger would be motivated to avoid using the OT characters, aliens, ship designs, etc. as much as possible. Less money for George = more money for Disney.  It's already been alleged that Galaxy's Edge had incorporated Mos Eisley and another OT locale before Iger had them removed. That would normally make no sense to do that unless of course Disney had a financial reason to do it. Same goes for Bad Robot, who is likely to get a cut of merchandising sales for any original ST designs they put into the films so long as they also don't draw too much from Lucas-era designs. Both Disney and BR have thus no reason to ever rely on the OT again if they can help it.

BUT considering how poorly-received the ST era has been with children, and the low sales of that toy product, we're now getting an influx of OT love again via The Mandalorian (because I'd imagine Disney would rather pay royalties to Lucas and turn a smaller profit, than churn out more ST crap and get no profits at all). 

So yes, ideally Iger wants to scrap anything OT but it's because he wants to maximize profits for Disney and himself, it has nothing to do with commonsense or rejecting older fans. Disney NEEDS the older fans right now more than ever. They don't have any new fans, and for eff's sake the kids today sure don't care about Star Wars (they care more about Frozen, Harry Potter, Overwatch, League of Legends... a zillion other properties before they give a rat's bum about SW).  Mandalorian and Obi-Wan are about appeasing older fans, and the rumored Feige trilogy is supposed to be KotoR.  This is all for us, not the next gen.  TROS was for us, not for the next gen. We're all they have right now for the foreseeable future until they can right the ship and find a new strategy to bring on the kiddies (like the recent Fortnite event they had)
I am not sure that I really follow the argument. First you suggest that I am not right, and the decisions all have to do with Bob Igerís fear of paying GL a little extra in Royalties (which I don't agree with, by the way - the royalties Lucas gets for using his characters is likely quite small, and I am sure if Iger thought adding OT stuff would bring in more money because he is appeasing older fans, he would add it in a heart beat, royalties or not). Then, you end by pointing out the reason he is scrapping OT stuff is for money reasons, not because he is rejecting older fans - this is basically what I said. I didnít say he was rejecting older fans - I said he didnít particularly care as long as the money was rolling in, and since they all made over $1 billion except Solo (which has the most OT stuff of any of the films, but I suspect we would all probably agree that the poor performance was not because of it having OT content but due to massive backlash from Episode 8 ), then he is happy with the profits from Lucasfilm/SW. I guess maybe we are saying similar things in a different way, although the background reasons may be different :confused0024:

I also have to say, again, that I disagree about their being no new fans. Iím not sure what things are like in your neck of the woods, but there are a lot of new fans out here. The young generation seems to love SW just fine. Is it the global phenomenon that the OT was? No. But the OT, in addition to a cool story and cool characters, had the most mind-blowing special effects in cinematic history, which allowed children to really feel like they were in a galaxy far, far away for the first time.

Regardless, agree or disagree on specific points, there is no question that, as a mega corporation, Disney is most concerned about profit, and decisions will almost always come down to what they think will bring in the most money for the company and the shareholders. As long as people pay big money to see what they are putting out, they will keep doing it. I would do the same thing if I was the CEO of Disney, most likely (well, maybe not for Star Wars movies, but anyway...). Some people may consider that cynical, but I am just being realistic - whether we like it or not, money is what drives Hollywood.

Just for interestís sake, I am linking an article here with a different view about where SW fell apart - and Iger is mostly a by-stander in this version. Whether this is right or the rumours you have commented about are right, who knows, but it is an interesting read.

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: The Mandalorian
« on: December 29, 2019, 06:56:33 AM »
I agree - I love the little connections between films, shows like The Clone Wars and Rebels, and the EU/Legends.

I wonder if we will get to see if Moff Gideon earned the Darksabre fair and square or if he just grabbed it off of the dead owner (Bo Karan or whoever it may have been at that point).

It will be a long wait for season 2!

Video Games / Re: Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order
« on: December 26, 2019, 12:07:56 PM »
Good to hear. I don't have it yet. May pick it up if it is on sale for boxing day.

Yeah, I had no idea the first time I watched TROS. I read online afterwards a comment referencing the visual guide which said it was Mustafar, so I knew the second time through, and still couldnít tell even looking for clues. Definitely could have been done a little better.

I havenít read this one yet. I am a bit behind on my reading. I read Alphabet Squadron, and a couple of books that tie into Black spire/galaxyís edge. Iíll try to get reviews up for them soon.

Before he "dies". He jumped out of a skimmer & looked to be much shorter than normal, with short legs. He jumped out & ran like normal human, not with chewies normal shuffle. It was likely a second or two of movie but I found it very jarring.
Just shortly before he dies? Out in that desert on whatever that planetís name was?

I hadn't considered part of ben survived. That's interesting but I still question her going back to tattooine. I'll choose to believe she wasnt there to stay, rather just bury the sabers.
I agree - I donít think she was going back to Tatooine to live. She was just returning those sabres to an appropriate place - it all began on Tatooine with Anakin Skywalker, and that is where Luke grew up. She canít bury Leiaís Sabre on Alderann, for sure, so may as well bury it with her twin, Lukeís.

I'm really glad lots of folks are enjoying it. Really they only ever broke down for me after repeated viewings when you're not focusing on the main parts any more. For ros, the pace was so quick that I just didnt have any time to get over my bad first impression from the crawl - it eas too much too quick and by the time the wrong looking chewie jumped out of the skimmer my chances of being taken away by the movie were gone. I need to visit babu frik so I can try it again with a clean slate.
Haha- that would be nice. Especially if R2 has a pre-TROS back-up copy of you to restore afterwards!

Which Chewie scene do you mean - I actually thought about your comments during my second viewing, but I think the scene had passed by the time I thought of it so I still didnít notice.

The first time I watched it, I assumed Rey taking the Skywalker name was more a choice of convenience, siding with her Masters over blood (in the way that Leia told her earlier that some things were stronger than blood or whatever). This time, I wondered if it is more than that - with her and Ben being a Dyad (whatever that is - Iím not a huge fan of the idea, but Its not the worst of the sequel ideas, so Iíll  go with it...), Benís death probably joined his spirit with hers - thus, although he disappeared, we didnít see his force ghost at the end with Luke and Leia. So her choice isnít just one of convenience - she (And Ben) have the option to Honor their Palpatine legacy and become the Sith Emperor/Empress of the galaxy, or honor their Skywalker legacy and defeat the Sith and remain Jedi. So, in staying with the light, they chose to be Skywalkers and not Palpatines.

On a separate note, did anyone get the special R2 pop and popcorn container? It was expensive, but free refills until January 31st on any movie, so I guess Iíll see a few more films to take advantage of it! I think it is a pretty cool little (well, itís kind of big, but...) treat container.

Star Wars Movies & TV shows / Re: The Mandalorian
« on: December 24, 2019, 09:53:54 PM »
This show has been great, with Episode 7 being the nest of the lot. I will miss it when the season is done. Hope that episode 8 is a longer episode, and that we get a few more seasons!

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