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Re: Outbreak! (Coronavirus discussion)
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2020, 09:59:32 AM »

All of the problems TRUMP has faced to date have been of his own creation.  Two years ago I made a comment to my friends about we will not know what kind a President he is until he tested by a real problem he did not create.  Bush had 911, Obama had the 2008 finial crisis.  Trump has the Coronavirus.   His actions, inaction are all being recorded by the historians.  What people will remember the most about, you, me or Donald Trump after we have past on this Earth is how we treated people when we were alive.   Donald Trump on the World Stage is showing the world he is arrogant self absorb petty pompous ass who has no business being President or Leader of anything.   He has already been impeached and now if the American people were smart they insist that he be removed from office and let someone be in charge who is capable of handling this situation.   They should effectively put a coalition of both parties in place and put Obama and Bush back in charge to get the country  through this situation.  Put Bush in at ground zero in New York he has been there and done that during 911, let Obama get all the different agencies and state governments working together to minimize the spread of coronavirus across the USA and North America. 
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Re: Outbreak! (Coronavirus discussion)
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2020, 11:04:00 AM »

I agree completely.  The sooner Trump gets sidelined, the better off we all will be!
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Re: Outbreak! (Coronavirus discussion)
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2020, 12:15:30 PM »

It's during a time of crisis that true leaders emerge.

I'm proud that our PM here in Quebec is acting like a fatherly, respectful, directive leader who took matters seriously from the start and decided to act to save lives rather than think about the politics and the economics of this pandemic. I didn't vote for Legault, but to be quite frank he is showing that he definitely is the man of the situation. The Hell, he even acted a month before any European leaders did.

Trump is literally the opposite. He is no leader, he's a bully. People fear him like they would of a dictator. He is a self-centered, ego-maniacal, money-driven evil. When he will be forced to step down from office, I predict he will be facing the law, with accusations of criminal negligence, having put the lives of millions of US citizens at risk, even causing 10 millions of deaths during this pandemic...



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Re: Outbreak! (Coronavirus discussion)
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2020, 01:17:37 AM »

Here's a great article that documents the effect that the virus is having on a very human, very everyday-person level:

https://gizmodo.com/the-human-brain-is-just-not-meant-to-process-this-much-1842477301


...and now the news for Thursday March 26th 2020:

- the number of confirmed cases worldwide is now at 500,000+ with almost 24,000 deaths, and the United States now has the most cases in the world at more than 82,000 which means it has surpassed China and Italy. The US has now seen 1100+ deaths.
- a New York doctor said: "9-11 was nothing compared to this. They just keep coming. And they're all ages. Don't delude yourself into thinking only the old will die. It's Hell. Biblical. I kid you not."  Today New York recorded 100 new deaths in the last 24 hours.
- there are so many dead, that a refridgerated truck has been brought into the hospital to store all the bodies.
- tents are set up to serve as makeshift morgues
- New Orleans could run out of ventilators in about a week
- different states are now discriminating against residents from other states: Rhode Island says it will pull over any New Yorkers, Texas says it will force people from New York and New Jersey into quarantine.
- the US passed the largest financial rescue package in history to help unemployed workers and industries hurt by the pandemic. The stock market is now up for 3 days in a row on the stimulus news.

- Italy still has the highest overall dead, at 8165.
- Spain is second at 4000 deaths
- 14% of those infected in those 2 countries are healthcare workers; doctors and nurses are among the dead.
- London officials warn that their hospitals could be overwhelmed in a matter of only days.

- in Canada, we have more than 4000 cases with 600 new cases reported today, in total there have been 39 deaths here.
- unfortunately our rate of infection is curving upward instead of flattening; we hit our 100th case on March 11th, since then the cases have surged past 1000, then 2000, then 3000. Only by staying at home can we hope to flatten out during this critical stage.
- Premier Doug Ford lashes out at a popular Toronto food store for price-gouging, charging 5 times the regular price, $30 for Lysol hand wipes. The store, Pusateri's Fine Foods, claimed that it was a pricing error, but twitter users slammed the store for being caught trying to jack up prices during a crisis. The advice is to report any price gouging to Consumer Protection Ontario.
- there has been a large increase in people speeding and stunt driving on Toronto roads during the corona outbreak, due to the reduced number of vehicles driving. So far just this month alone, 33 people have been charged for stunt driving, which is twice the number charged for the entire year of 2019. On the positive side, collisions are now down 30% since the crisis began.

- Japan has done a better job at flattening the curve, attributed by some to a mask-wearing, obedient population.

- experts at Imperial College London (who do disease mapping) released a report that discusses where this outbreak could be headed:
1) in the absence of any intervention, this virus would've infected 7 billion and killed 40 million
2) with intervention, the number of deaths can be reduced to half (20 million). Health care systems across the world would still be overwhelmed, especially in poorer countries.

Only by suppressing the spread through testing, isolating infected people and their contacts, and strict social testing can the death toll be reduced further.

3) any delays in implementing strategies to suppress transmission will lead to worse outcomes and few lives saved.
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Re: Outbreak! (Coronavirus discussion)
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2020, 12:43:19 PM »

Fri Mar 27 2020:
- WHO Director General: "The pandemic is accelerating at an exponential rate. The first 100,000 cases took 67 days. The second 100,000 took 11 days, the third 100,000 took just 4 days, and the fourth 100,000 just 2 days."

- number of worldwide deaths is above 27,000
- Global National: the US has 100,000+ infections and more than 1500 deaths as of Friday afternoon
- Donald Trump today finally changed his mind and enacted the War Time Defense Production act to force corporations such as General Motors to start making ventilators. He then criticized the governors for criticizing HIM for being so slow to act, saying that "I want them to be appreciative."
- doctors are turning to the black market to buy protective health equipment in order to keep themselves safe
- the virus is not expected to peak in New York for another 3 more weeks.

- Italy had 969 deaths in one day, the military can't build field hospitals fast enough
- Spain had 769 new deaths, and the UK had 181 new deaths where the rate of infection is doubling every 3-4 days.

- COVID-19 has now killed more Canadians than SARS did and in a fraction of the time; 44 Canadians died of SARS back in 2003. Currently 55 Canadians have died from COVID-19. There are 4757 positive cases in all of Canada.
- Ontario now has 1006, Quebec has 2021 positive cases and is the epicenter of the outbreak in this country
- Toronto has 457 cases, 29 of whom are hospitalized, and 4 deaths

- Health authorities say 6% of Canadians who contract coronavirus are hospitalized, 2.5% require critical care, with a fatality rate of 1%. Canadians are urged to maintain 2-metre 'bubble' around themselves when they have to go out in public.

- a McDonalds employee in Hamilton has been accused of faking being infected by coronavirus so that she could get out of work. The 18-year old teenager handed a forged doctor's note to her employer, who then had to shut down the restaurant and send all of the employees home to self-isolate. She was arrested and is now facing several mischief and fraud-related charges.

- PM Boris Johnson tests positive for coronavirus; he is the first major world leader to be confirmed to have the virus.

- all Service Canada offices across the country are now closed; applications for EI have to be done online (however one man who tried going to an office said to a reporter that the online process has a technical problem that prevented him from completing his application).

- at least 512 NYPD employees have tested positive for COVID-19 as of Friday morning

- a deceased person can still carry the virus for 36 hours after death, funeral workers are worried they could contract COVID-19 while working with the corpse, or they could catch it from visiting relatives.

- https://globalnews.ca/news/6743979/condom-shortage-coronavirus/
COVID-19: World’s biggest condom producer warns of global shortage! A global shortage of condoms is looming, the world’s biggest producer said, after a coronavirus lockdown forced it to shut down production.

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Re: Outbreak! (Coronavirus discussion)
« Reply #50 on: Today at 12:44:10 AM »

Sat Mar 28 2020:

"When all of this is over, the world won't be the same."

- the US reported 20,000 new cases today, bringing it to over 120,000 positive cases; the death toll has exceeded 2000 since Thursday
- 800,000 physicians signed and sent a protest letter to Trump telling him that social distancing must continue
- on Thur and Friday in New York, the COVID-19 virus was killing New Yorkers at a rate of 1 person every 17 minutes
- Trump is considering a quarantine on all of New York, even as some New York residents are trying to flee the area. (I never thought that the 80s movie "Escape from New York" would be a reality...)
- the US government has given rapid approval to a new test for the virus, giving back results within minutes. The goal is to produce 50,000 of these rapid-testkits per day starting next week.

- more than 20,000 people in total have now died across Europe
- Italy has now reached 10,000 dead; Spain is now over 5000 dead, and the UK has now exceeded 1000 deaths.
- in Spain, a paramedic comments that the average age of those dying is decreasing, no longer are they 80-year olds, now it is people in their 30s and 40s who are dying. The PM announced even stricter restrictions today, shutting down businesses for 2 weeks.
- in the UK, the country's top doctor offered a bleak outlook for his country: "If we can keep the death toll below 20,000 then we will have done very well in this epidemic." (i.e. they are still expecting to see 20 times the number of deaths that they have currently experienced as of today)
- vacuum company Dyson, will begin building ventilators

- in WuHan, China, things are slowly getting back to normal, the government has shut down movie theaters again to keep the virus from spreading a second time.
- Russia announces that on Monday night, it will close down all of its borders to foreigners.
- drive-in movie theaters are becoming very popular again in Germany (since the operator has no contact with customers, and customers are themselves isolated from one another in their cars)

- Canada's death toll jumps to 61, and there are now 5665 confirmed cases
- about 7% of patients are in hospital, 3% are critically ill, and 1% have been fatal

- Ontario enacting new bill that severely punishes anyone or any corporation trying to gouge on selling protective medical equipment, cold medication, disinfectant wipes, hand sanitizer, etc. that includes huge fines from $700 to $500,000 and jail time of up to 1 year.
- Ontario has 512 cases, 36 are in the ICU, and 4 deaths
- a Loblaws employee at Yonge-Eglinton has tested positive, the store has been closed for cleaning

- BC recorded its largest one-day spike in positive cases today
- anyone riding on VIA Rail will now be subject to health tests before they are allowed to board the train

- one TTC driver is so fearful of the risk of bringing home the virus that when he comes home from work, he changes out of his work clothes in the garage, makes minimal contact with his children and wife, and sleeps in a separate part of the house. Bus drivers feel trapped and scared, citing that they feel TTC management aren't establishing policies to keep the drivers protected from any infected passengers; drivers are worried about speaking out openly on the issue at the risk of losing their jobs. TTC ridership is down about 80%.
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